Feeding grain to males can cause stones, and their urethra is so tiny, that even something the size of a grain of sand can cause a blockage. If you really want to give thiamine AFTER the 5-day treatment is done, you can, but a healthy goat should not need it. Have you contacted the breeder? Sweetlix Meat Maker and Purina goat minerals are both excellent choices for free choice minerals. What mineral do you reccomend? If he is the size of a chihuahua, it sounds like you are giving him a lot more than that. Zinc deficient goats lose hair in patches and foam at the mouth. You would give 2x the dosage on the bottle, and the Safeguard needs to be give for 3 days for tapeworms, but only one day for Valbazen. When I went in to let them out this morning the buck has had mild scours overnight. Diarrhea in adult goats is really unusual, but one of the more common causes is worms, which can also cause diarrhea in kids. Ayana should be the benchmark of true 5 star hotel. Basically, a goat with worms may have diarrhea or anemia or both. It is a contagious bacterial disease (that spread from one animal to other) of goats. You really don’t need to do fecals to manage parasites. If it was coccidiosis, Corid should have taken care of it, and Cydectin should have killed worms, even if you used a small dose of Safeguard, unless you are dealing with serious dewormer resistance. I will respond with his weight asap. The aborted foetus, vaginal discharge and milk from infected goats contain a large number or organisms. I plan on taking a fecal sample to the vet Monday morning to see if he does still have worms. Barber pole, which causes anemia in goats, does not usually cause diarrhea. The other confusing thing is that her sister, who we picked up at the same time from the same place, and who has always been around and bedded with her, is very healthy. 36 Scours are the increased fluidity, frequency, and excretion volume of the faeces. I have a 3 month old bottle doe (milk given to her is goat’s milk from our lactating doe) with greenish watery diarrhea. Kids should be given 3 cc orally every 12 hours until feces has returned to normal. Pati & William E. Goat. https://thriftyhomesteader.com/johnesdisease/. Hopefully you gave her the ivomec orally. Copper deficiency, however, does NOT cause diarrhea. That’s my bad! My goat was fine all day and now right before bed he has diarrhea. Otherwise you wind up with a very fat kid and a low milk supply. Hi, I just brought home two 8 week old babies. A year is a little old for coccidiosis, but if it hasn’t cleared up, you could try treating him for that before taking a fecal to the vet. Please, no corn syrup for baby goats or electrolytes or any of the other stuff. If she is not eating any grain, then she probably does not need any baking soda at all. Safeguard should be given to goats at twice the dosage on the label for goats or cows, so you may have under-dosed if you followed the directions on the label. However if this is a single kid, you should continue milking out the doe at least once a day. What do you think is wrong? It’s in the gut of most adults, and it doesn’t bother them because they’re mostly immune to it, so I would not expect the dam to have a problem, even if the kids do. I had a hunch the directions were to much, too often. Protect against such accidents. Corid kills the coccidia by depleting their thiamine. If he was tied up in a very small area, he was probably ingesting a lot of coccidia whenever he’d nibble on grass in his area, which would probably be very short, so it would be in contact with poop on the ground. If you used 2x the cattle dosage or you have no more, you might buy a tube of Quest for horses, which is 1.87% moxidectin (same as Cydectin) and can be dosed at close to the horse dosage since goats would need 2% when being dosed at that level. Research has shown that this will kill more worms because one dewormer will kill some of the worms missed by the other one and vice versa. Okay, so the vet examined the stool sample, and said they saw worms and coccidia again. He did spend a while longer out of the pen grazing two days ago and has had diarrhea ever since. Hi, After a initial vet visit saying he was healthy we found out he was helping himself to all the minerals in the pens when the other (older) goats were out grazing. So I have a Nigerian dwarf nanny goat that’s overcoming Listeriosis. But that means you must follow directions carefully and not overdose. that smell is definitely abnormal, smells like a dead animal. No offence!=Nichts für ungut! What is most likely wrong, and how long should I give it before I take action? If you treat for coccidiosis, and it doesn’t help within 2-3 days, then you should take a fecal to the vet to get a definitive diagnosis. The only time I ever had a goat get diarrhea from stress was when we picked up three kids in Massachusetts and were about half an hour into our drive home to Illinois. Vet did a wellness exam days before I noticed the feces, she did not do a fecal test but suggested then we treat for coccidiosis. I’m sure things have changed dramatically by now, for better or worse. We can’t afford a vet right now. Oh, thank you for your prompt reply. I have given them pepto bismol and hemostam n electrolytes. Also he’d be waking and then just lays down as if he’s tired. I am grateful for your input. I hope she’s quarantined. The buck has had really bad diarrhea for the last week. He so small, I keep him in the house so birds of prey won’t get him. I would like some other advice on what to do for them. I know diarrhea can dehydrate a goat, and I’m also concerned about nutrition in his system. Thanking you in advance. Could it be something they might have eaten or too much rich browse? ALL goats have worms, but you should only give a dewormer to a goat that is being negatively affected by them — such as the goat who has diarrhea. However, it is always essential to know the exact cause of the scour, before treating them with the home remedy. The good news is that coccidia need a LOT more thiamine than goats, so it is possible to deplete the coccidia’s thiamine enough to kill them without hurting the goat. Bottle-feeding instructions and amounts are here: https://thriftyhomesteader.com/deworming-goats/, I have an older doe that has got extremely skinny and has had diarrhea for close to two months, she goes around and eats, not much hay, no pellets, grazes, I treated her with valbazen, ivermectin, cydectin, electrolytes, great personality but skinny and diarrhea. Alfalfa doesn’t cause diarrhea. Oh and it’s also been unseasonably wet and cool with the odd hot day thrown in. She had a fecal done, and it does not look like she has worms or cocci. So I agree with you. How long does diarrhea caused by STRESS last? I have 2 babes that were raised indoors and now after almost 2 months outside they have horrible poops. They both had extra oats, but only the buck had the issue. Infectious agents do not cause scours only like virus, bacteria or parasites. Type D causes the neurological signs in goats along with the development of diarrhoea. Her bloodwork came back very poor, she is so anemic that the vets were amazed she is still standing. there is a kid in the same pin…..should she be moved?? He has had 3 days of Corid oral medication and he still has diarrhea. However, if I had a goat that did not improve with treatment, I would take a fecal sample to the vet to get a definitive diagnosis so the goat could be properly treated. Hopefully you didn’t get much of that into them. (The fecal taken to the vet may not have been good enough, so they will try and get it from her tomorrow during our appointment.). Based upon the life cycle of worms, they would not get diarrhea from worms until they are at least a few weeks old. I’ve back off on that because her poop has gone from normal to playdough to pasty. They are NOT born with worms, and if mom has worms, it has zero effect on the kid. Grass only is NOT enough for the kids to thrive because it does not have enough protein or calcium. The extra oats would be my first guess as to the cause of the diarrhea. The other possibility is that the doe was smart enough to not eat it. It transitioned him onto straight goat milk powder after a couple of days and he loved it. There are dozens of possible causes of diarrhea. Bucks don’t need grain, and too much grain can cause diarrhea. However, that is NOT a good long-term strategy if you become a breeder. However, a goat may have more than one type of worm at a time. She does not get too much grain per weight and milk output. They are eating grass from our pasture. Thank you, your post is so educative. Coccidiosis is the most likely culprit in a kid this age. We just got home 3 days ago and he had been with a friend and her goats they did feed him differently molasses grain and alfalfa we feed him a goat mix and fresh grass could his diet be causing this? In addition to that, there are the 28 pages of diarrhea information in the book I mentioned earlier. I am curious how you keep you goats healthy. Thanks in advance! So, the best thing to give him would be the store bought Meyenburg brand, Goat milk, fresh or powdered or evaporated, diluted to proper mix per directions? You usually only see it in young kid at weaning when they get stressed out. He’d kept them after his kid moved away to college and just didn’t know what he was doing. Usually if you are going to feed cow milk, you mix it with goat milk first and switch them gradually. If the eyelids are bright pink but their body condition could be meatier, then it’s probably a different roundworm. If one goat is having it off and on, could be that she’s not figuring it out. They may have coccidiosis because their nutritional level is so low that their immune system is weakened. What other recommendations as far as supplements? This disease is also known as watery mouth disease. Panacur is from one class, and ivermectin is from another. Or did you treat her with more than one in a single day? You haven’t said how much he weighs, but he should not be getting more than 20% of his body weight in 24 hours. This is just a sample of the problems you will see if your goats are not properly nourished. I got home from running errands tonight and 2 of them had green diarrhea. After kidding, the does chemical change in her body wakes up all those little critters that have been dormant through the winter. If he gets really lethargic, he could have bloat. Can pregnant does have baking soda? He has had 3 doses of corid so far, should I have seen improvement by now or should I finish the last 2 doses and then take a fecal to the vet if there is still no improvement? Thanks. It is a good idea for all goat owners to take the time to understand what vaccinations are and if they are needed in every situation and why. I withheld his bedtime bottle last night, and this morning his stools were firming up quite a lot. The directions for goats on a bottle of Safeguard for goats is actually the cattle dosage. Keep in mind that overdosing can lead to constipation. They are the only dewormers that work for tapeworms. Plus, considering the circumstances, I think it would be good to get a vet’s opinion of what’s going on. Goats need 2x the dosage of cattle. If they get diarrhea just once like that, it’s usually because they ate something that upset their digestive system. If your local vets won’t see goats, they should at least give you the contact info for one who does. I don’t think it could coccidiosis because they haven’t been in a herd with other goats since March. Any idea what this could be? Both have been robustly healthy since I’ve had them, they are fed hay and they have browse in their field in the form of thistles, grass, burdock, thimbleberry, fireweed etc. We bought them, dewormed, and have them pastured with plenty of blackberries, saplings, nettles, and we free feed good hay and both loose and block mineral. Thank you! The aborted animals do not breed. The barber pole worm basically causes a goat to bleed to death, although they’re consuming the blood like a vampire. She also has loose mineral and baking soda free choice. If you underdose, the dewormers don’t work very well. They needed a home though after being mauled by a dog and we had space and an area fenced already with a shed for them. I bought another wormer and wormed him again Sunday because I was told to try a different one. There is a risk of urinary stones causing a blockage when male goats eat grain, and oats are not that nutritious. Corid is not a sulfa drug, so I don’t see any reason why you would not be able to use a sulfa drug, if needed. An udder that is hot and hard is a sign of mastitis, but since you’re new to goats, that’s hard to figure out. Here is more basic info on goats — I have a 6 month old buck. They need good green alfalfa hay and milk, as well as a good goat grain, such as Purina Goat Chow or Dumor Sweet Goat Feed. I have an almost two week old fullblood boer doeling whose being bottle fed due to her mother rejecting her shortly after birth. Because diarrhea can kill goats, especially kids, by dehydrating them, it’s important to figure out what is causing the diarrhea and begin treatment as soon as possible to treat the actual cause — not just the symptom. The white wormer the vet gave me is Panacur per cc (200mg/ml) at .5cc orally for 5 days. It been over a week since then and she still has diarrhea. They were almost dead when I got home to check on them. Could it be stress from the newbie, these are the only 2 that seem to care? He didn’t have watery at all, more like pudding I guess. The pen is also shared with some chickens in a coop. They start eating food when they are only a few days old, but they still need the protein and calcium that is in milk, because it is at a high level that you can’t get in any other food without giving them diarrhea. If he is not eating or drinking, he won’t live very long without veterinary attention, and there is just way too much going on here to attempt to figure it out in this format. Sulfa drugs, which are available at local farm stores, are a common remedy, but if the diarrhea doesn’t go away within a couple days of using it, you should take a fecal to the vet for a definitive diagnosis. I can afford electrolytes but not much more than than what are some cheap ways to cure it. However, there is a possibility of the scours development in the adult goats too and the reasons behind that are: -. The most common reason for diarrhea in a kid that age is coccidiosis. Any recommendations on a microscope to use to do home fecal tests? They cannot get worms through milk.